There is a new Witch Coven theme force in the latest no quarter. It's interesting and it uses the Iron Lich Overseer (a sentence I never thought I would utter).
Witch Coven
Models: Non-character jacks, Malice, Bile Thralls, Mechanithralls and necrosurgeons, Bloat Thralls, Machine Wraiths, Necrotechs, Scrap Thralls, Warwitch Sirens, Iron Lich Overseer, Skarlock Thrall
Tier 1
increase the FA of ILO by one, additionally they can jack marshall 3 jacks
Tier 2
2 or more ILOs
-2 points for jack marshalled helljacks (heavies), -1 point for jack marshalled bonejacks (lights).
Tier 3
2 machine wraiths
Machine wraith gain ambush
Tier 4
2 or more warjacks are controlled by ILOs
Models with soul take start the game with one additional soul token (ILOs start with 1, Malice starts with 2 souls)
So that makes Seethers 7 points with a free focus (you can allocate focus to jack marshalled jacks, you can't allocate to autonomous warjacks)
so with a warwitch siren you can run the Seether with 3 "focus" every turn without using souls from the ILO (and it can still stealth) - (can't give the Seether the additional focus because it gets allocated one in the control phase not when it activates). You can also take 4 point Slayers which I think is just silly and 2 point helldivers, also silly. Really like this list, there is a little bit of skornergy in that infernal machine is battlegroup only so you can't throw it on the marshalled jacks but you need to put something on your coven anyway. I doubt it will see much competitive play just due to issues with getting the models, no other list is going to use the ILO let alone two of them and outside of battlebox games and I don't think I've ever seen a Slayer on the table (every Cryx player though has a few Seethers for the withershadow combine) so in a competitive game where you can't proxy I don't see it getting a lot of traction. Still it looks very different from what you normally see from cryx and you can get a significant points discount from the tier bonus. Slayers are probably pretty cheap on ebay though considering they are in all the battleboxes and no one likes them.
seeing a bit of a flaw in some of your theory :) the seether is Seether has: SOUL DRIVE "this model is allocated 1 additional focus point during your control phase"
ReplyDeleteWarwitch has POWER BOOSTER "RNG 5 Target friendly faction warjack. If the target warjack is in range and has no focus points, it gains 1 focus point. If the warjack is disrupted, it is no longer disrupetd"
Seethers will only ever get the benefit of a warwitch if something has taken their focus before it's had a chance to activate.
It's not that nobody likes the slayers, they're not a bad jack. the problem is they're not as good as the other jacks cryx has. ill try this out :)
I know I'm the only one, but I do regularly play my pair of Overseers with Scaverous's theme force. And since the same synergy is available here with extra point discount, I think this will become one of my regular competitive lists.
ReplyDeleteMachine Wraiths with ambush is just insaaaane xD